Part II - The Magic of Yes Lori Pappas escaped a mental institution at seventeen, built a tech empire, then walked away from it all in her fifties to move to Africa. In this raw, deeply personal conversation, she returns to talk about what she didn't say in our first episode. We dive into The Magic of Yes, her award-winning book that exposes the protection mechanisms so many of us use to avoid our pain. Lori talks about using work to hide from traumatic memories, staying too long in marriages held together by fear and obligation, and the guilt of being physically present but emotionally unavailable to her children. Then came the unexpected turn: opening her heart to love again in her seventies after swearing she was done. What we explore: - How workaholism can be avoidance, not ambition - The D.R.E.A.M. framework for navigating life transitions - Breaking free from fear, obligation, and guilt - Letting go of identities that no longer serve us - What it takes to open your heart again after closing it - The wisdom Lori would offer her younger self This is true transformation without the Instagram filter. It's messy, it's brave, and it's real. If you missed Michèle's earlier interview with Lori, check out Episode #52 Join us for the Turning Pages Book Club on January 26th at 5:30 PM PST where you can ask Lori your questions directly.
Book: The Magic of Yes: Embrace the Wise Woman Within
Amazon: https://a.co/d/0hel8Hh
Lori Pappas:
Website: loripappas.com
Facebook: Wise Woman Sisterhood (group)
Newsletter: Sticky Thoughts
The Turning Pages Book Club with Michèle's guest: Lori Pappas
January 26, 2026 | 5:30 PM PT
micheleheffron.com/bookclub
Zoom Link to join Turning Pages Book Club on Monday, January 26th at 5:30PM Pacific https://us06web.zoom.us/j/6917380953